Credit deflation and the reflation cycle to come (part 3)

[macca]

59 minutes ago, Loki said:

No one knows.  We're in completely new public health territory.

Adenovirus vector vaccines also used for the first time I think but DYOR. Rest are still in trials.

What are adenovirus-based vaccines?

To date, several adenovirus-based vaccines are in clinical and pre-clinical trials. Vaccines developed against HIV, Ebola virus, influenza virus, Mycobacterium tuberculosis, and Plasmodium falciparum are currently under human clinical trials. There are also vaccines under preclinical trials developed against rabies virus, dengue virus, and middle east respiratory syndrome coronavirus. Meanwhile, adenovirus-based vaccines for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) have been authorized for emergency use amidst the COVID-19 pandemic

Anyway...

Talcum powder is safe! until after 40 years of use they found its full of asbestos and causes cervical cancer from use in nappies

Feeding meat to Cows is safe! Until it caused mad cows disease and spread to humans causing death

Antidepressants are safe! Until they just found out they are more addictive than heroin and might not actually help

I know there are many other examples if anyone wants to help add some?

Covid vaccine is safe.. ummm well maybe, they are scientists not fucking clairvoyants.. If you give any scientist enough money then they are safe.. They are well paid experts..

[Eventually Right]

3 hours ago, wherebee said:

In short, @Starsend, many of us believe that the mass vaccinations of MRNA technology into the population will create huge life threatening illnesses for many of those injected, whether through ADE, immunity suppression, existing disease acceleration, or other.

If we are right, you'd see governments giving immunity from prosecution to the companies making the drugs, censoring any talk of side effects and trying to mandate vaccination in order to remove the control group.

 

er...

I’m not saying you’re wrong (I obviously hope so!) but if you turn out to be right, I’ve always thought that immunity from prosecution wouldn’t do much good for the CEOs/scientists of Pfizer etc and the politicians that gave them the immunity.

They’d be faced with a mob that wants to lynch them, not prosecute them, and be relying on the protection of a police/military who’s friends and family will have been affected by these health concerns.

Lawsuits would be the least of my worries if I were them.

[macca]

On 19/11/2021 at 13:30, Hancock said:

Don't see how the Austrians can afford it, but they are closing up again!

Wont be the same as last time but its a form of locking up, and shows the world things arent going back to normal.

Looks to me as if the new world is for the vaxxed only, and they're going on a blitz to force people into getting jabbed.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/19/covid-news-coronavirus-lockdown-europe-cases-deaths-booster/

Just a selection -

 

Apart from all data shows they don't work, Scotland and wales have very similar rates of infection with vaccine passports and masks.

Only difference is all their clubs are 50% empty and its costing money to implement.

Israel is on their 4th jab and rate of infection and death are rising with vaccine passports, masks and social distancing..

Its just authoritarian crap and control.. 

[Mapper]

15 hours ago, Noallegiance said:

Stimmies

Stimulus payments enabled a massive increase in consumer spending. This coupled with supply chain disruption caused inflation to go up.

But the stimulus payments have ended (at the moment) and so (goes the theory) will the increase in inflation.

Unless there is sustained money supply growth that filters into all areas of the real economy, including importantly wages, then there will not be monetary inflation.

I think however, if governments implement some kind of UBI through MMT, then that would be a different story (a horror story).

QE has not worked at getting money into the real economy ie. real people who produce goods and services and then consume them.

It has expanded the financial economy of course, but little else.

[spygirl]

5 hours ago, macca said:

supposedly have one of the least generous pensions in Europe amongst the majority of the population..

Which leads us back to real aim of the game,

1)destroy the system,

2)steal all the money,

3)own all the assets..

4)Back to slavery..

The house prices mask the Old peoples real wealth with a layer of glitter.. property millionaires on 3 bob and a button a week income.

Id be careful about that.

The UK v EU pension claims, which I see constantly, are not comparing like with like.

They compare UK state pensions to EU countries, where a the state runs a contribution work-based scheme.

UK pensions appear less than some EU pensions because -

1) The UK state does nto run a work related contribution scheme.

2) So many adult UKers just dont fucking work, this is down to time unlimited, non contribution working age benefits.

 

 

[jamtomorrow]

5 hours ago, macca said:

Talcum powder is safe! until after 40 years of use they found its full of asbestos and causes cervical cancer from use in nappies

Feeding meat to Cows is safe! Until it caused mad cows disease and spread to humans causing death

Antidepressants are safe! Until they just found out they are more addictive than heroin and might not actually help

I know there are many other examples if anyone wants to help add some?

Covid vaccine is safe.. ummm well maybe, they are scientists not fucking clairvoyants.. If you give any scientist enough money then they are safe.. They are well paid experts..

This on steroids.

The entire industrial revolution has been one giant chemical experiment on the biome.

I look at the ideas that have changed in my lifetime alone, and the huge doses of *really* nasty shit I received during my childhood, and the doses of nasties we're still getting. And then look at the effort put into understanding and avoiding possible vaxx risks, and can't make head or tail of it.

I'm somewhat sympathetic to some of the concerns and suspicions articulated here and elsewhere, but there's no way I could *rationally* justify "drawing a line in the sand" at the vaxx given the amount of involuntary unatural dosing I've already accepted in my life.

Like the lead compounds I ingested or inhaled during childhood. Or the CFCs from when I worked on processing scrap fridges. Or the smoke from the frequent tyre fires.

Or today, the PFAS, BPAs and phthalates I shovel into my gullet involuntarily on a daily basis courtesy of the food packaging I can't by arsed to avoid. Or the microplastics. Or the volatiles in that nice new foam mattress.

The list is endless.

So why let *that* unatural shit into my veins, but not *this* unatural shit? None of it is known to be free of harms to health over the long term, so I don't see why I would single out just the vaxx if I'm genuinely concerned about my bodily temple.

[spygirl]

7 hours ago, macca said:

Talcum powder is safe! until after 40 years of use they found its full of asbestos and causes cervical cancer from use in nappies

Feeding meat to Cows is safe! Until it caused mad cows disease and spread to humans causing death

Antidepressants are safe! Until they just found out they are more addictive than heroin and might not actually help

I know there are many other examples if anyone wants to help add some?

Covid vaccine is safe.. ummm well maybe, they are scientists not fucking clairvoyants.. If you give any scientist enough money then they are safe.. They are well paid experts..

Talc is safe.

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/talcum-powder-and-cancer.html

https://www.webmd.com/cancer/talcum-powder-cancer

[Castlevania]

Hochschild taking a beating this morning. Already halved on reports the Peruvian government are to close down their mines in the country.

[Hancock]

8 minutes ago, Castlevania said:

Hochschild taking a beating this morning. Already halved on reports the Peruvian government are to close down their mines in the country.

Just about to post that, i bought £1300 worth now worth £500!

Should have sold up the other month when the commies took over from the thieving bastards.

With the 0.1%ers taking all the wealth, outcomes like this are inevitable the world over, as the plebs want a few more crumbs from the table.

[BadAlchemy]

9 minutes ago, Castlevania said:

Hochschild taking a beating this morning. Already halved on reports the Peruvian government are to close down their mines in the country.

 

[Hancock]

4 minutes ago, BadAlchemy said:

 

The so called capitalists people salivate over are the socialists pigs.

That picture needs editing.

[Majorpain]

22 minutes ago, Castlevania said:

Hochschild taking a beating this morning. Already halved on reports the Peruvian government are to close down their mines in the country.

They have the IPO for the world class Rare Earths deposit in Chile some time in the next few months, ever since they bought it they have been singled out for extra special attention by the banks.  Its not the first time I've seen a share messed with like this.

[Loki]

28 minutes ago, Hancock said:

Just about to post that, i bought £1300 worth now worth £500!

Should have sold up the other month when the commies took over from the thieving bastards.

With the 0.1%ers taking all the wealth, outcomes like this are inevitable the world over, as the plebs want a few more crumbs from the table.

You are not alone mate, invested £1,110.54, now worth 427.68.

[Hancock]

5 minutes ago, Loki said:

You are not alone mate, invested £1,110.54, now worth 427.68.

See its slightly going up again.

Thing is if i could invest in SIL SILJ then i wouldn't be bothering with individual mining companies, as quite frankly people like us have fuck all knowledge of whats really happening on the ground.

And it involves spraying then praying over too many companies to replicate it; as whats happening in Peru can quite easily happen in other poorer nations with the global economy possibly imploding

Though we did have the tip off, as to what was going to happen in Peru.

[BadAlchemy]

25 minutes ago, Hancock said:

The so called capitalists people salivate over are the socialists pigs.

That picture needs editing.

Agreed. The labels change. Things get dressed up as other things in order to maintain the status quo. Perhaps "crony capitalism/globalization" on the right. Still, this seems like shooting oneself in the foot to just shut down producing mines like that.

[Loki]

Anyone got the balls to cost average down?

[Hancock]

Just now, BadAlchemy said:

Agreed. The labels change. Things get dressed up as other things in order to maintain the status quo. Perhaps "crony capitalism/globalization" on the right. Still, this seems like shooting oneself in the foot to just shut down producing mines like that.

They wont be shutting it down, id imagine they'll be keeping it for the state/themselves.

But as you imply it will lead to companies not investing once the state screws things up.

[HousePriceMania]

59 minutes ago, Castlevania said:

Hochschild taking a beating this morning. Already halved on reports the Peruvian government are to close down their mines in the country.

[Hancock]

5 minutes ago, Loki said:

Anyone got the balls to cost average down?

I'm using this one as a learning experience, and will now set up an Interactive Brokers account so i can invest in SIL, SILJ and more ETFS.

HOC was a gamble thats looking like a losing ticket.

 

[Majorpain]

11 minutes ago, Loki said:

Anyone got the balls to cost average down?

I did, its looking like well overblown private investor panic selling whilst those in the know hoover up shares on the cheap.  Not a massive bet, but if it pays off its will be a nice payday.

This is not a game for widows and orphans!

[Hancock]

8 minutes ago, Majorpain said:

This is not a game for widows and orphans!

Same applies to people buying a dozen or so similar companies, but its up 50% from its lows!

[HousePriceMania]

8 minutes ago, Majorpain said:

I did, its looking like well overblown private investor panic selling whilst those in the know hoover up shares on the cheap.  Not a massive bet, but if it pays off its will be a nice payday.

This is not a game for widows and orphans!

I'm going to go back to bed.

[Loki]

11 minutes ago, Majorpain said:

I did, its looking like well overblown private investor panic selling whilst those in the know hoover up shares on the cheap.  Not a massive bet, but if it pays off its will be a nice payday.

This is not a game for widows and orphans!

Fair play I hope your gutsyness gets rewarded!

[Harley]

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[wherebee]

35 minutes ago, Hancock said:

I'm using this one as a learning experience, and will now set up an Interactive Brokers account so i can invest in SIL, SILJ and more ETFS.

HOC was a gamble thats looking like a losing ticket.

 

I wouldn't feel too bad - one of my junior miners in Oz has halved in price in 12 months as well... because the management are shit.