UK Govt Coronavirus Response: Sceptics Thread

[sancho panza]

 

[sancho panza]

substantial rise in type 1 diabetes in youngsters U19 post Covid in the last two years.

 

[sancho panza]

1 in 35 myocardial injury

Sponsored by......

 

[sancho panza]

natrual immunity 27 times more effecetive than the jab..... apparently...dont go telling that to Pfizer shareholders

 

[azzuri82]

Half of Vaccinated People Never Stop Producing Spike Protein, Study Found

see - https://www.igor-chudov.com/p/half-of-vaccinated-people-never-stop?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

[azzuri82]

This is really bad news.

 

The entire premise of using such a MRNA vaccine was a lie if this proves to be the case (and the spike protein sticks around for extended periods).

Certainly explains the apparent now permanent increase/s in excess mortality figures.

Should run a sweep to see when the mainstream media picks up on this.

3% with permanent cardio injury (regardless of level of severity) was bad enough - but this is another level of deception.

Moderna must've known about this. These people should be swinging from lampposts for what they've done.

 

[onlyme]

1 minute ago, azzuri82 said:

This is really bad news.

 

The entire premise of using such a MRNA vaccine was a lie if this proves to be the case (and the spike protein sticks around for extended periods).

Certainly explains the apparent now permanent increase/s in excess mortality figures.

Should run a sweep to see when the mainstream media picks up on this.

3% with permanent cardio injury (regardless of level of severity) was bad enough - but this is another level of deception.

Moderna must've known about this. These people should be swinging from lampposts for what they've done.

 

3%, and the rest if this is right.

 

 

[M S E Refugee]

1 hour ago, azzuri82 said:

This is really bad news.

 

The entire premise of using such a MRNA vaccine was a lie if this proves to be the case (and the spike protein sticks around for extended periods).

Certainly explains the apparent now permanent increase/s in excess mortality figures.

Should run a sweep to see when the mainstream media picks up on this.

3% with permanent cardio injury (regardless of level of severity) was bad enough - but this is another level of deception.

Moderna must've known about this. These people should be swinging from lampposts for what they've done.

 

Importing millions of 3rd Worlders into the UK makes much more sense if this happens.

[azzuri82]

Anyone that is sceptical re: the shots may wish to have a perusal of the below from a UK medic perspective:

 

https://www.callingouttheshots.xyz/

 

 

[sancho panza]

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/09/26/top-u-s-government-vaccine-adviser-refuses-to-get-latest-covid-shot-as-he-warns-of-long-term-impact-of-myocarditis/

Top U.S. Government Vaccine Adviser Refuses to Get Latest Covid Shot as He Warns of Long Term Impact of Myocarditis

A top vaccine adviser to the U.S. Government has refused to get the latest Covid shot as he warns about the long term impact of myocarditis and other serious side-effects.

In a video posted on X (Twitter) by the ‘Chief Nerd’, Dr. Paul Offit – a member of the Food and Drug Administration’s vaccines committee – said he “didn’t get last year’s bivalent vaccine” and he’s “not getting this year’s vaccine” because he believes he is “protected”.

“We’re going to find out about this vaccine over time,” he warns, describing the whole approach as a “novel strategy”.

We certainly were surprised by myocarditis and pericarditis and we’ll see whether or not over time when we’re five years into this, 10 years into this, 15 years into this, whether there’s any evidence of residual myocardial disease because the reason you have myocarditis is you’re making immune response to your own heart muscle… We’ll find out about that over time.

Dr. Offit has previously been a cheerleader, not only for the Covid vaccines but for the vaccine mandates that forced millions of Americans to get the shots or quit their careers.

Defending the first New York City vaccine mandate in summer 2021, he animatedly told CNN that “it is not your right as an American citizen to catch and transmit a potentially fatal infection”.

However, he changed his tune at the start of this year when he wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine an article sharply criticising the bivalent vaccines being rolled out at the time, branding them a “cautionary tale”.

At that point he did not mention safety worries, so his raising of concerns about myocarditis and other adverse effects is a new development.

As Dr. Offit says, we’re going to find out about this vaccine over time. Dr. Offit has been complicit in inflicting this rushed, under-tested technology on America and the world. However, he is a rare example of someone in a key advisory position willing to change his tune publicly. Will others be inspired to follow him?

Edited September 26, 2023 by sancho panza

[sancho panza]

suspect there's more to this than a statue.Thsoe excess death figures are pretty damning

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/09/26/dan-andrews-quits-as-premier-of-victoria/

Dan Andrews Quits as Premier of Victoria

Towards the end of last year, Australia’s top actuarial body said the “incredibly high” excess deaths in 2022 – 17% above the pre-pandemic average in the first eight months of the year – which were observed across the country including in Victoria, should be urgently investigated by the Government. Australian mortality has been well above average since autumn 2021.

Andrews’s reign was marked by extraordinary brutality meted out by police to ordinary workers and citizens protesting the extreme lockdown conditions he imposed on the state for months on end.

In November 2021, Andrews introduced a mandatory vaccination law affecting one million Australians, requiring those working in jobs on the state’s authorised worker list, such as professional athletes, mining workers and journalists, to be double vaccinated or quit.

Victoria’s strict vaccine regime made global headlines in early 2022 when it resulted in world tennis number one Novak Djokovic being ignominiously ejected from the country over his vaccination status the day before the Australian Open was set to begin.

Andrews at the time had been uncompromising, saying said the media circus could have been avoided if Djokovic had just got vaccinated against COVID-19.

“It’s very simple, just get vaccinated. And then everyone’s time wouldn’t have to be wasted with this,” he said.

However, despite the highly polarising effect these measures had on his state, Andrews comfortably won the 2022 state election in what later become known as a ‘Danslide’.

It has been suggested that Andrews quit once he became eligible for a tribute statue in his honour. Victorian Premiers are entitled to be memorialised in bronze near Melbourne’s Parliament House once they pass 3,000 days in office – a milestone Andrews reached on February 20th.

Ahead of the 2022 election, Sky News commentator Peta Credlin predicted: “Sometime early next year he ends up winning his little statue out the front of the Premier’s office and then he’ll p*** off and leave it to the woman, Jacinta Allan, which will enable them to effectively rebrand themselves.”

Andrews has been rewarded handsomely for his reign of terror. In recent months he secured a 3.5% pay rise, lifting his salary to $481,190 (£255,031) – up more than $16,000 (£8,480) from 2022. For comparison, the U.K. Prime Minister receives around £160,000.

Andrews will also benefit from a historic pension scheme for MPs elected before 2004, which could see him awarded millions upon retirement.

The tyrant is finally gone. But it’s always disappointing when they go out on a high rather than in disgrace for grievously violating their citizens’ rights. It is, sadly, further confirmation that the struggle to prevent authoritarian politicians imposing brutal restrictions on free societies – and getting away with it, being fêted even – is an uphill one that is far from over.

[sancho panza]

John Campbell confirming high excess death figures. across Europe but err.....not Sweden

 

[sancho panza]

Campbell using ONS data that shows deaths amongst vaxxed is higher than the unvaxxed.....

so bascially,if the deaths amongst unvaxxed had been across the population then we would have had the green figire below.But we actually got the red figure/.

the difference is as bleow 155k people

[sancho panza]

I wouldn't watch this if you're of a nervous dispostion and vaxxed.

 

[Innkeeper]

On 26/09/2023 at 21:03, sancho panza said:

Campbell using ONS data that shows deaths amongst vaxxed is higher than the unvaxxed.....

so bascially,if the deaths amongst unvaxxed had been across the population then we would have had the green figire below.But we actually got the red figure/.

the difference is as bleow 155k people

I see the video in this post has been removed by Campbell because he got the figures wrong ( the UK has not had a death figure of 334K since before 1950) - pointed out by the BBC’s More or Less programme.

To be fair to Campbell, he removed the vid pretty much straight away and he said that he relied on third parties for getting correct info to him.  

I like Campbell’s style and think he’s really trying to uncover a lot of crap but I’m less inclined to trust his messages for the moment.  He’s phenomenally successful though, colossal viewing figures in many countries. 

[onlyme]

2 hours ago, Innkeeper said:

I see the video in this post has been removed by Campbell because he got the figures wrong ( the UK has not had a death figure of 334K since before 1950) - pointed out by the BBC’s More or Less programme.

To be fair to Campbell, he removed the vid pretty much straight away and he said that he relied on third parties for getting correct info to him.  

I like Campbell’s style and think he’s really trying to uncover a lot of crap but I’m less inclined to trust his messages for the moment.  He’s phenomenally successful though, colossal viewing figures in many countries. 

Why would you take that stance on one video on one collection of data / source being out? Did the BBC point out that 10's if not 100's of his videos contained official data from the initial release of the vax onwards were incorrect - safe, effective, stops transmission, err no. Have those videos been pulled down for containing misleading information, no.  He relied on third parties then, they were just the ones pushing for the vaccine above all / anything else.

 

[Chewing Grass]

9 hours ago, sancho panza said:

I wouldn't watch this if you're of a nervous dispostion and vaxxed.

 

I have watched Sancho Panzas posted video and can confirm it is worth watching it through to the end, topping up your Vit D, having a clean diet, using anti-inflamatories and never having more than 2 shots of anything that messes with your immune system and doesn't work.

[janch]

6 hours ago, Innkeeper said:

I see the video in this post has been removed by Campbell because he got the figures wrong ( the UK has not had a death figure of 334K since before 1950) - pointed out by the BBC’s More or Less programme.

As soon as I heard they were going to look into Campbell on "More or Less" I knew they were after him as he's too popular and so obviouslly in their eyes he's spreading misinformation.  Through a process of "lies.lies,damned lies and statistics" they succeeded. 

From google:

The full quote — “There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics” — has been attributed to Mark Twain, who himself attributed it to British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, who might never have said it in the first place. Regardless of the origin of the phrase, it is one that I hold near and dear.

[sancho panza]

'All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.’

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/10/08/thousands-of-new-zealand-health-service-workers-secretly-exempted-from-covid-vaccine-mandates/

Thousands of New Zealand Health Service Workers Secretly Exempted From Covid Vaccine Mandates

More than 11,000 Health New Zealand employees may have secretly dodged Covid vaccination, despite nationwide mandates and vaccine passports for everyone else.

The news comes from an Official Information Act (OIA) request asking how many exemptions had been granted within the national public health service, Te Whatu Ora.

From the response, dated August 2nd, 2023:

From November 13th 2021 to September 26th 2022, a total of 478 applications for Significant Service Disruption exemption (SSD) were received. 103 applications were granted, covering approximately 11,005 workers.

The OIA request is one of 71 requests lodged to date by Erika Whittome of the Number Eight Workers’ Union, which has been active in challenging Covid restrictions and mandates.

The social media and blogosphere are in a furore, as New Zealanders voice anger at the secrecy and double standards within the Ministry of Health.

The exemptions were granted to Te Whatu Ora workers by the Ministry under a Significant Service Disruption (SSD) provision that allowed workers who couldn’t be easily replaced by another person to continue working without being vaccinated.

Accordingly, senior officials and high-level specialists may have been more likely to secure exemptions, leading to the public perception that ‘elite’ workers were protected from mandates, while ‘replaceable’ workers were refused exemptions.

While approximately 11,005 workers were exempted from mandated Covid vaccination under the SSD provision, it is unclear how many exercised the privilege, and how many went ahead with vaccination regardless.

What is clear is that more than 1,300 unvaccinated healthcare workers were stood down out of a total workforce of approximately 80,000 when Covid vaccine mandates came into effect in November 2021.

Dr. Emanuel Garcia wrote on his Substack that he personally knows multiple healthcare workers who had been fired from their positions for not taking the required number of Covid vaccine doses, despite the sector experiencing a worker shortage.

With this new information, I now wonder how many of the ‘chosen’ 11,000 were doctors, and if , why these doctors didn’t raise their voices against the programme of coercive inoculation? I wonder who decided that these 11,000 workers could get off jab-free while my friends and many others suffered the consequences of their conscientious choice?

Covid commentator Guy Hatchard reports that sources from within Te Whatu Ora advised that staff who received exemptions were “restrained by gag orders… it was a secretive process that the Ministry of Health was anxious to hide from the public.”

Social media is littered with anecdotes of New Zealanders denied Covid vaccine exemptions despite severe and even life-threatening reactions to prior doses.

Chances are that some of the healthcare workers who were exempted from Covid vaccination administered the vaccines to coerced New Zealanders.

By the end of 2021, New Zealand was touted as an international success story, with over 90% of the population aged 12 and over having been double vaccinated. By March 2022, New Zealand boasted 95% vaccination coverage, with 73% of this cohort having also received a booster.

Former Prime Minister, Jacinda ‘single source of truth’ Ardern, reportedly said that her Government’s coercive vaccine mandates were “undoubtedly” one of the reasons that New Zealand attained such high vaccination rates.

As well as workplace mandates, Ardern imposed proof of vaccination requirements on a broad range of social activities. At a press conference in October 2021, Ardern said,

If you want summer, if you want to go to bars and restaurants, get vaccinated. If you want to get a haircut, get vaccinated. If you want to go to a concert or a festival, get vaccinated. If you want to go to a gym or a sports event, get vaccinated. If you are not vaccinated, there will be everyday things you will miss out on.

Ardern also famously agreed, smiling, that her Government had created a two-tiered society with different rights, based on vaccination status.

However,  Ardern’s successor, Chris Hipkins, recently denied that Covid vaccination had been compulsory in New Zealand, confirming that we are now at the ‘no one made you take it, it was your choice’ stage of the pandemic.

On September 3rd this year, Hipkins told reporters:

In terms of the vaccine mandates, I acknowledge it was a difficult time for people, but they ultimately made their own choices. There was no compulsory vaccination, people made their own choices.

New Zealanders are now left to contemplate that not only were they coerced into vaccination and then gaslit over it, but that the Health Ministry overseeing the whole shebang was secretly letting its own key workers off the hook.

[leonardratso]

Think i read last week that pfizer is looking a bit fookd due to the lack of interest in its latest boosterooo and general malaise on its coviderooo offerings.

[dnb24]

Directly from Pfizer:

 

Authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines show increased risks of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart), particularly within the first week following vaccination. For COMIRNATY, the observed risk is highest in males 12 through 17 years of age. Seek medical attention right away if you have any of the following symptoms after receiving the vaccine, particularly during the 2 weeks after receiving a dose of the vaccine:
 

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-receive-us-fda-approval-2023-2024-covid

[dnb24]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-67206579.amp
 

The so called report- Scotlands winter 2022-23 has highest death toll for 30 years- wait I thought the pandemic of 2020 was a once in a lifetime event!?!?! 

[sancho panza]

10 hours ago, dnb24 said:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-67206579.amp
 

The so called report- Scotlands winter 2022-23 has highest death toll for 30 years- wait I thought the pandemic of 2020 was a once in a lifetime event!?!?! 

Mmmmmmm.....!!!! wonder whats the crack here

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/10/25/whats-behind-the-26-rise-in-heart-failure-deaths-22-in-cirrhosis-and-19-in-diabetes/

What’s Behind the 26% Rise in Heart Failure Deaths, 22% Rise in Cirrhosis Deaths and 19% Rise in Diabetes Deaths?

by Nick Rendell

25 October 2023 9:00 AM

In previous articles I’ve highlighted the worrying rise in deaths from heart failure. This article adds deaths from both cirrhosis (liver damage) and diabetes to the ‘watch’ list.

Using data from the Department of Health Improvement and Disparities (DHID) website I’ve compared the expected number of deaths from the end of March to the end of September 2020, with the registered number of deaths for the commensurate 28 weeks in 2023.

The data cover 14 causes of death. In Figure 1 you can see that the increase in deaths from heart failure at 26% leads the field, but it’s closely followed by cirrhosis and other liver diseases at 22% and diabetes deaths at 19%.

Figure 1

A very good question would be why I’m comparing 2023 actuals with 2020 expected numbers, rather those for 2023. The answer is that the expected levels are calculated as an average of prior years, , if you have a rising trend the average goes up progressively. The net result of this ‘inflationary’ pressure is to understate the increase or decrease in deaths over the coming years. This results in the classic ‘frog boiling’ as things progressively, though imperceptibly worsen.

In the following charts I’ve separated out the ‘inflationary’ increase from the ‘excess’. In that way it’s apparent that the overall changes from 2020 are far more significant than the reported level.

Figure 2 shows that 29,582 people were expected to die from heart disease in the 28 weeks from the end of March to the end of September 2020. In 2023 the expected level of deaths had increased by 2,027, a 7% jump. In the event, in 2023 a further 5,539 people died of heart failure, these are the ‘excess deaths’.

Figure 2

, in 2023, from the end of March to the end of September a total of 37,148 deaths from heart failure were registered (7,566 + 29,582). That’s 19% higher than the 2023 expected level but 26% higher than the expected level in 2020 number. Extrapolate 7,566 deaths from 28 to 52 weeks and we see that we’re on target for over 14,000 extra deaths from heart failure.

Deaths from cirrhosis also show a 7% ‘inflationary’ increase and a further 15% ‘excess’ deaths on top of that. A 22% increase in deaths from cirrhosis seems like an awful lot! Cirrhosis is a fairly slow burn condition. Another un-foreseen consequence of lockdown?

Figure 3

Diabetes shows a total increase of 19% over the 2020 expected number of deaths. Some 12% of this increase is ‘inflationary’ with a further 7% being recorded as ‘excess’ this year.

Figure 4

Again, let’s extrapolate that 5,060 extra deaths to 52 weeks and we see that we’re on schedule for over 9,000 extra deaths from diabetes. Add the 14,000 extra heart failure deaths to the 3,000 cirrhosis deaths and the 9,000 diabetes deaths and that’s over 26,000 excess deaths from these three conditions alone.

The purpose of these charts is to highlight that it’s important to look behind the headlines. A headline that deaths from diabetes are up 7% may not set the pulses racing, but when it’s put in context of a 19% increase over three years then you just might sit up and take some notice, and if you’re at risk, do something about it!

Finally, let’s look at cancer deaths. Cancer has been making the headlines of late. We’ve had both Professor Angus Dalgleish and Professor Karol Sikora flagging up concerns over cancer but from rather different positions. Dalgleish attributes harm in part to the vaccines themselves, whereas Sikora has consistently pointed to the ‘non-pharmaceutical interventions’ leading to delays in diagnosis and treatment as being the true villains of the piece.

However, as Figure 5 demonstrates, there’s been very little change in cancer deaths, just 2.3% up on the 2020 expected level. Indeed, registered deaths during our 28 week 2023 period have been 381 lower than the expected level.

Figure 5

What does all this tell us? Heart failure, cirrhosis, diabetes and cancer are all linked to lifestyle choices. We know that mRNA can cause heart problems, indeed Pfizer themselves warn about myocarditis, Figure 6 is taken from its website; one wonders how many school-age kids were warned of this association with myocarditis before giving their ‘informed’ consent to getting vaccinated?

Figure 6

However, the significant increases in cirrhosis and diabetes may well indicate that it’s been the unintended consequences of lockdown that’s had the most impact as people’s lifestyle choices became increasingly harmful.

Lifestyle, vaccines or failures in medical care, the legacy of the over-reaction to Covid will continue to reverberate for years to come.

[Pip321]

On 07/10/2023 at 11:46, Chewing Grass said:

I have watched Sancho Panzas posted video and can confirm it is worth watching it through to the end, topping up your Vit D, having a clean diet, using anti-inflamatories and never having more than 2 shots of anything that messes with your immune system and doesn't work.

As someone who never followed the ‘conspiracy’ theories and plodded along in life blinkered and happy….my awakening came when I saw something that even I didn’t feel was right nor did I understand. It was the Ukraine/Russia war and the speed the West were desperate to start sanctions…despite the obvious need for Germany to use oil/energy more than Russian need for Mickey Mouse fiat currency. I won’t digress but I then started to look….a Matt Le Tissier type moment and I thought, oh fuck….maybe the media is NOT playing with a straight bat on all the stories I have read over the past 30 years. 

So too little too late and at the time I just followed the queues to the death camps and was vaccinated x 3 but I will not have my 4th. The driver at the time was my poorly mum….I was sold that I was protecting her and I fell for it. 

But it is now useful to know what to do now.

So are we saying…take Vit D, eat well, stay lean and healthy, avoid routine flu jabs too, use anti inflammatories. Anything else…..or am I now in the hands of the gods. 🤢

Edited October 28, 2023 by Pip321

[Chewing Grass]

46 minutes ago, Pip321 said:

So are we saying…take Vit D, eat well, stay lean and healthy, avoid routine flu jabs too, use anti inflammatories. Anything else…..or am I now in the hands of the gods. 🤢

Things rich in antioxidants as they protect cells from damage and some Vit C.

Eating well and exercising is the big one.