UK Govt Coronavirus Response: Sceptics Thread

[sancho panza]

A classic of the genre

 

[macca]

https://www.facebook.com/gerard.rennick/videos/1237927350400388/

 

Gérard Rennick goes for it, questioning what health officials were claiming, saying they had no evidence. 

Edited December 4, 2022 by macca

[macca]

Heart damage from Vaccines, German images from people who died suddenly

[sancho panza]

On 04/12/2022 at 23:33, macca said:

Heart damage from Vaccines, German images from people who died suddenly

Just rewatched this and it really is shocking what's coming out.

5/25 unexpected deaths at home.Small smaple but still begs the question of how many have died in hospital and had a vaxx death put down to something else.

From the paper,what's fascinating is that the inflammatory markers that were picked up meant the myocarditis was considered 'mild'(Campbell's words.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00392-022-02129-5#Sec3

Abstract

Cases of myocarditis, diagnosed clinically by laboratory tests and imaging have been described in the context of mRNA-based anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Autopsy-based description of detailed histological features of vaccine-induced myocarditis is lacking. We describe the autopsy findings and common characteristics of myocarditis in untreated persons who received anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Standardized autopsies were performed on 25 persons who had died unexpectedly and within 20 days after anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. In four patients who received a mRNA vaccination, we identified acute (epi-)myocarditis without detection of another significant disease or health constellation that may have caused an unexpected death. Histology showed patchy interstitial myocardial T-lymphocytic infiltration, predominantly of the CD4 positive subset, associated with mild myocyte damage. Overall, autopsy findings indicated death due to acute arrhythmogenic cardiac failure. Thus, myocarditis can be a potentially lethal complication following mRNA-based anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Our findings may aid in adequately diagnosing unclear cases after vaccination and in establishing a timely diagnosis in vivo, thus, providing the framework for adequate monitoring and early treatment of severe clinical cases.

Results

Among the 35 cases of the University of Heidelberg, autopsies revealed other causes of death (due to pre-existing illnesses) in 10 patients (Supplementary Table 1). Hence, these were excluded from further analysis. Cardiac autopsy findings consistent with (epi-)myocarditis were found in five cases of the remaining 25 bodies found unexpectedly dead at home within 20 days following SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Main characteristics of the five cases are presented in Table 2, while further autopsy findings are shown in Supplementary Table 2. Three of the deceased persons were women, two men. Median age at death was 58 years (range 46–75 years). Four persons died after the first vaccine jab, the remaining case after the second dose. All persons died within the first week following vaccination (mean 2.5 days, median 2 days). Clinical findings, blood tests, ECGs or imaging data were not available as deceased persons did not seek medical attention prior to death.

[Long-game]

11 minutes ago, sancho panza said:

Just rewatched this and it really is shocking what's coming out.

5/25 unexpected deaths at home.Small smaple but still begs the question of how many have died in hospital and had a vaxx death put down to something else.

From the paper,what's fascinating is that the inflammatory markers that were picked up meant the myocarditis was considered 'mild'(Campbell's words.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00392-022-02129-5#Sec3

Abstract

Cases of myocarditis, diagnosed clinically by laboratory tests and imaging have been described in the context of mRNA-based anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Autopsy-based description of detailed histological features of vaccine-induced myocarditis is lacking. We describe the autopsy findings and common characteristics of myocarditis in untreated persons who received anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Standardized autopsies were performed on 25 persons who had died unexpectedly and within 20 days after anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. In four patients who received a mRNA vaccination, we identified acute (epi-)myocarditis without detection of another significant disease or health constellation that may have caused an unexpected death. Histology showed patchy interstitial myocardial T-lymphocytic infiltration, predominantly of the CD4 positive subset, associated with mild myocyte damage. Overall, autopsy findings indicated death due to acute arrhythmogenic cardiac failure. Thus, myocarditis can be a potentially lethal complication following mRNA-based anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Our findings may aid in adequately diagnosing unclear cases after vaccination and in establishing a timely diagnosis in vivo, thus, providing the framework for adequate monitoring and early treatment of severe clinical cases.

Results

Among the 35 cases of the University of Heidelberg, autopsies revealed other causes of death (due to pre-existing illnesses) in 10 patients (Supplementary Table 1). Hence, these were excluded from further analysis. Cardiac autopsy findings consistent with (epi-)myocarditis were found in five cases of the remaining 25 bodies found unexpectedly dead at home within 20 days following SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Main characteristics of the five cases are presented in Table 2, while further autopsy findings are shown in Supplementary Table 2. Three of the deceased persons were women, two men. Median age at death was 58 years (range 46–75 years). Four persons died after the first vaccine jab, the remaining case after the second dose. All persons died within the first week following vaccination (mean 2.5 days, median 2 days). Clinical findings, blood tests, ECGs or imaging data were not available as deceased persons did not seek medical attention prior to death.

It's a disgrace and so many have buried their heads in the sand, classic ostrich manoeuvre!  Anyone whom has taken this poison are potentially in trouble, also who knows the long term effect of COVID infections also It's a whole sheetshow that the U.S has not answered for yet.

[janch]

Taken from one of the covid threads:

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/12/13/sudden-deaths-explode-in-germany-after-vaccine-rollout-new-insurance-data-show/

 

[macca]

the most dangerous vaccine in history, and most likely from evidence, it does not even work! 

 

 

[wherebee]

57 minutes ago, macca said:

the most dangerous vaccine in history, and most likely from evidence, it does not even work! 

 

 

it will be very interesting if Youtube delete a channel for sharing a debate from within the chamber.

I know in other fora, deletions have occurred for simply sharing official data (and indeed, on pre Musk twitter just linking to a gvt report!)

[sancho panza]

19 hours ago, janch said:

Taken from one of the covid threads:

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/12/13/sudden-deaths-explode-in-germany-after-vaccine-rollout-new-insurance-data-show/

 

Picture paints etc

[sancho panza]

Missed this one

1,262,686 views 25 Nov 2022

58% of covid US deaths now in the vaccinated Kaiser Family Foundation vice president Cynthia Cox https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19...

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-trac...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-...

https://data.cdc.gov/Public-Health-Su...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...

58% of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted (people who had completed at least their primary series of vaccines)

Therefore 42% coronavirus deaths in August were people who were unvaccinated

First time there were more deaths covid deaths in the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-trac...

In September 2021 Vaccinated people, 23% of coronavirus fatalities In January and February 2022 Vaccinated people, 42% of coronavirus fatalities We can no longer say this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated

 

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by sancho panza

[Guest]

November UK CPI number out today, 10.7%. Completely predictable consequence of switching off much of the economy for 2 years and paying millions of people to sit at home.

[macca]

8 hours ago, Darude said:

November UK CPI number out today, 10.7%. Completely predictable consequence of switching off much of the economy for 2 years and paying millions of people to sit at home.

The top 350 UK companies have increased prices by 72%..

Inflation is not wage rises, Covid, Ukrainian war..

It's  companies using Covid, War, Brexit.. etc as an excuse to increase PROFITS! 

Never let a disaster go to waste!

Edited December 14, 2022 by macca

[M S E Refugee]

5 minutes ago, macca said:

The top 350 UK companies have increased prices by 72%..

Inflation is not wage rises, Covid, Ukrainian war..

It's  companies using Covid, War, Brexit.. etc as an excuse to increase PROFITS! 

Never let a disaster go to waste!

I thought it was to do with sanctioning the 2nd biggest Oil producer in the World.

Although you are correct that wage rises don't cause inflation they are merely just a symptom of it.

[macca]

2 minutes ago, M S E Refugee said:

I thought it was to do with sanctioning the 2nd biggest Oil producer in the World.

Although you are correct that wage rises don't cause inflation they are merely just a symptom of it.

These were statistics quoted from one of these financial number crunching institutions.. 60% is profit, 40% will be oil, gas, Brexit!

We only imported 4% Russian gas, price rises cause inflation, that inflation is GREED driven,, They don't give a fuck if people freeze to death, starve to death,, as long as profit goes up!

NHS wages must be kept low to destroy the service, and cheaper wages for the USA private company that take it over and kill 100'000s of People for profit.

I would say the human race are evil cunts.

[M S E Refugee]

1 minute ago, macca said:

These were statistics quoted from one of these financial number crunching institutions.. 60% is profit, 40% will be oil, gas, Brexit!

We only imported 4% Russian gas, price rises cause inflation, that inflation is GREED driven,, They don't give a fuck if people freeze to death, starve to death,, as long as profit goes up!

NHS wages must be kept low to destroy the service, and cheaper wages for the USA private company that take it over and kill 100'000s of People for profit.

I would say the human race are evil cunts.

The Countries that did buy Russian Gas had to look for alternatives therefore pushing the price up for everyone else.

[macca]

1 hour ago, M S E Refugee said:

The Countries that did buy Russian Gas had to look for alternatives therefore pushing the price up for everyone else.

What fucking idiots blew up the pipeline and sanctioned cheap energy for Europeans?

Its interesting that such actions cause record profits.. Almost like the RICH sanctioned Russia to increase profits for themselves and donors whilst killing the poor. 

[Guest]

7 hours ago, M S E Refugee said:

I thought it was to do with sanctioning the 2nd biggest Oil producer in the World.

CPI inflation was already running at about 6% before the start of the war in Ukraine.

[M S E Refugee]

48 minutes ago, Darude said:

CPI inflation was already running at about 6% before the start of the war in Ukraine.

Yes and the sanctions didn't improve matters.

[M S E Refugee]

4 hours ago, macca said:

What fucking idiots blew up the pipeline and sanctioned cheap energy for Europeans?

Its interesting that such actions cause record profits.. Almost like the RICH sanctioned Russia to increase profits for themselves and donors whilst killing the poor. 

We are Governed by evil people but it's difficult to push back when most of the population are incredibly stupid and believe everything they are told by the evil people that laud over them.

[macca]

9 hours ago, M S E Refugee said:

We are Governed by evil people but it's difficult to push back when most of the population are incredibly stupid and believe everything they are told by the evil people that laud over them.

That I agree with.. 

Satanic is a better word.. The plan is depopulation.. you can macro economy the shit out of anything you like.. Its not going to save you. If anything your going along with the intentional corruption. 

But gas heaters, solar, tinned food, avoid injections, Nasal sprays, anything you can do to prepare for what they have planned! 

[macca]

Propoganda Hitler would be proud of.. Thats whats going on.. 

 

 

[sancho panza]

First few bits in bold say it all.Prof Angus Dalgliesh

There's a growing number of voices raising concerns

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/12/19/i-have-tried-sounding-the-alarm-about-the-vaccines-causing-cancer-relapse-but-the-mainstream-media-dont-want-to-know/

Following my recent communication about my very real concern over the recurrence of cancer in many of my melanoma patients who have been stable for long periods, at least five years and in one case 18 years, other oncologists have contacted me to say they are seeing the same phenomenon.

Seeing the recurrence of these cancers after all this time naturally makes me wonder if there is a common cause? I had previously noted that relapse in stable cancer is often associated with severe long-term stress, such as bankruptcy, divorce, etc. However I found that none of my patients had any such extra stress during this time but they had all had booster vaccines and, indeed, a couple of them noted that they had a very bad reaction to the booster which they did not have to the first two injections. 

I then noted that some of these patients were not having a normal pattern of relapse but rather an explosive relapse, with metastases occurring at the same time in several sites. Obviously, I began to wonder whether the booster vaccines could be causing these relapses and were not just coincidence, as my colleagues were willing to suggest. 

Within a three-month period I have been able to identify eight people who have developed B-cell malignancies following the booster, with two of them reporting that they instantly felt very unwell after the booster, having had no problem after the first two vaccines, then describing the symptoms of extreme exhaustion and long Covid before being investigated and finding out that they had a B-cell leukaemia in two cases, non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma in five and a very aggressive myeloma in the other case. 

Scientifically, I was reading reports that the booster was leading to a big excess of antibodies at the expense of the T-cell response and that this T-cell suppression could last for three weeks, if not more. To me, this could be causal as the immune system is being asked to make an excessive response through the humoral inflammatory part of the immune response against a virus variant which is no longer in existence in the community. This exertion leads to immune exhaustion, which is why these patients are reporting up to a 50% greater increase in Omicron, or other variations, than the non-vaccinated.

Having communicated these observations I was rapidly reminded that I had written an article, published in the Daily Mail in the middle of 2021, which encouraged people to get vaccinated, particularly younger people. This was a very thorough article, written under my name but essentially conducted by interview, for the purpose of condoning the vaccine rollout at the time. Although I had started to have concerns, the overwhelming push by the Government and the medical community was that this would be in everyone’s best interest. So the environment at that time was completely different to what it is now. Indeed, my own take on this was soon to change very dramatically when my own son developed myocarditis after having a jab he did not want but that he needed for work and travel purposes. I also then found out that one of his friends in his early 30s had suffered a stroke and that a niece of my close colleague had a fatal heart attack at the age of 34, having had the vaccine for her occupation as a nurse! I began to be highly alarmed that it was the vaccines causing these symptoms, and that just as we had written right at the very beginning of the pandemic, a genetically engineered virus had serious implications for vaccine design. This paper, which was suppressed and therefore did not appear in print for many months, reported that the sequence of the virus was completely consistent with having been genetically engineered, with a furin cleavage site and six inserts at places that would make the virus very infectious, and the reason this had such tremendous implications for vaccine design was that 80% of these sequences had homology to human epitopes. In particular, we had noticed a homology with platelet factor 4 and myelin. The former is also certainly associated with what is known as VITT (low platelets and clotting issues) and the latter associated with all the neurological problems, such as transverse myelitis, both of which are now recognised as side-effects of the vaccine even by the MHRA.

Although it took some time to get these findings out into press, they were delivered to and widely circulated to the Cabinet and various medical committees as we thought these observations were crucially important. Unfortunately, they were ignored.

However, the cases of myocarditis did not even need this trigger as young hearts over-express the ACE-receptor, which the virus had been trained in the laboratory to bind to with very high affinity and it is this that sets off the inflammatory response, which leads to myocarditis, pericarditis, stroke and deaths, which it is now clear are far more common in the under-40s than caused by the virus infection itself.

It was also shortly after this time that it became evident that the virus was attenuating, as all viruses do. In addition, treatment was improving so the virus was leading to fewer hospitalisations and deaths. I believe this is a very important factor to take into account as it was clear at the end of the first year that the pandemic was reducing and the virus becoming less aggressive, with the emergence of the Omicron variant, just as large sections of the population were being vaccinated.

In late 2021 it was becoming manifestly evident too that the vaccines were anything but safe and effective and that the disease was not nearly as problematic as it was at the beginning of 2020 when it was being rendered much worse with what I believed at the time to be ludicrous responses. These included both lockdown and the refusal to treat Covid as a respiratory airborne virus with consensus mechanisms but instead pushing patients on to a randomised trial, known as RECOVERY, which ended up showing what everyone knew: that if there is an acute inflammation in the lungs patients need dexamethasone. The early responses also included putting patients on ventilation, which now is known to be the last thing that should have been done as it seemed to encourage early death.

When the facts change, or new facts emerge, the position of all those in authority directing mandates should change but unfortunately, they did not.

I tried desperately to point out that all the evidence that vaccines might have been useful in helping to curtail the pandemic was changing; that it was becoming very clear that there were highly significant side-effects to the vaccine programme that Pfizer had gone to great lengths to cover up, and that it was only a court case in the U.S. that led to them becoming available. At this stage the whole vaccine programme should have been stopped but nobody seemed to want to address this, neither the Government, the medical authorities or the media. 

Having written many articles for the Daily Mail arguing against lockdown and for it never to be used again, I was extremely keen to address my change of opinion on the vaccines and to warn people of their dangers particularly to younger people, and to point out there were no grounds at all for giving it to children. Unfortunately, all my efforts and approaches to the mainstream media on this subject have been rejected. This, I believe, is something that will come back to haunt all those who introduced an Orwellian kind of suppression to the emerging truth, which labelled doctors trying to save their patients along the lines of ‘first do no harm’ as outcasts or villains.

[sancho panza]

FDA investigating clots.SOmething big must be brewing if they're getting this out now

https://ussanews.com/2022/12/17/fda-pfizers-covid-shots-linked-to-blood-clotting/

[sancho panza]

From 4 myocarditis cases per million per year to 25,000..........mmmmmmm.....

[sancho panza]

Tim RObbins discusses his conversion from lockdown lover to lockdwon sceptic

Edited December 23, 2022 by sancho panza