Systemic Collapse Watch - First Signs

[One percent]

19 hours ago, Kendo said:

Not sure where to post this but figured here would be good enough. If people (especially with double-barrelled surnames) are thinking like this, god help us: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/15/generous-pensions-britain-triple-lock-working-age-benefits

They haven’t the first clue have they. Keep increasing the tax take from the working so that shazza and gary and abdul and mohammed can sit on their arses all day. 

[azzuri82]

16 minutes ago, One percent said:

They haven’t the first clue have they. Keep increasing the tax take from the working so that shazza and gary and abdul and mohammed can sit on their arses all day. 

Actually what we need is a new political movement/shake-up that removes the existing political class. They can choose to change course - or the starving masses will remove them from the political scene (or the gene pool) - permanently. 

[One percent]

Just now, azzuri82 said:

Actually what we need is a new political movement/shake-up that removes the existing political class. They can choose to change course - or the starving masses will remove them from the political scene (or the gene pool) - permanently. 

Agree but the sheep keep voting them in.  This doesn’t end without violent conflict. 

[Errol]

3 minutes ago, One percent said:

This doesn’t end without violent conflict. 

First we have the total collapse of the system involved. There is no escape.

After that, the violent conflict.

Edited September 16, 2023 by Errol

[One percent]

11 minutes ago, Errol said:

First we have the total collapse of the system involved. There is no escape.

After that, the violent conflict.

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[King Penda]

22 minutes ago, One percent said:

Agree but the sheep keep voting them in.  This doesn’t end without violent conflict. 

We get a bail in before that . Trust me 

[One percent]

6 minutes ago, King Penda said:

We get a bail in before that . Trust me 

You mean the establishment comes for every last store of wealth?  

[King Penda]

11 minutes ago, One percent said:

You mean the establishment comes for every last store of wealth?  

Well yes and it will pacify those with nothing that you now have nothing there might be riots but no swinging from lampposts will be evident unless it’s race riots

[Phil]

5 hours ago, King Penda said:

Well yes and it will pacify those with nothing that you now have nothing there might be riots but no swinging from lampposts will be evident unless it’s race riots

Werrington is a shithole. Thought I'd mention. 

[King Penda]

3 minutes ago, Phil said:

Werrington is a shithole. Thought I'd mention. 

Do you live there

[Phil]

Just now, King Penda said:

Do you live there

Went to look at a gaff today there It's an OK place tbf. The bird ( estate agent, Fenny) turned up with a 21 plate audi, leggings, tall, blonde, ( I would) but full off herself. Mentioned euro interest rates going up ( she: naa  mate, its only transitory -  me yeah?) Not for us . Priced at £180k. Artex( asbestos) and a shit load other things. Rewire , walls down. They are fuckin delusional. Bint. But I would.

[Loki]

 

[Chewing Grass]

Cancelation of HS2 North of Birmingham, more backpedaling on political vanity projects to come in due to funding fighting age black males in hotels.

[Stuey]

On 16/09/2023 at 21:01, Loki said:

 

There's some weird trickery going on with that chart IMO. 

[Chewing Grass]

Government backpeddles on more ideological vanity projects as it realises its broke, the country is broke and the infrastructure is going to be.

Mandated Heat Pumps - on hold

Mandated EV's on hold

Banning Gas Central Heating - on hold

Offshore Wind Auction - Failed (UK can't afford the price)

7 Bins Proposal - Scrapped

Flight Taxes - Scrapped

Interest rates tomorrow (yanks are anticipated to raise theirs).

 

 

 

[Loki]

2 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

Government backpeddles on more ideological vanity projects as it realises its broke, the country is broke and the infrastructure is going to be.

Mandated Heat Pumps - on hold

Mandated EV's on hold

Banning Gas Central Heating - on hold

Offshore Wind Auction - Failed (UK can't afford the price)

7 Bins Proposal - Scrapped

Flight Taxes - Scrapped

Interest rates tomorrow (yanks are anticipated to raise theirs).

 

 

 

Yanks held (FOMC meeting was an hour or so ago)

[Wight Flight]

Mrs F had to order a load more of our boxes for work today. They are a custom size and usually take a few days to produce.

She ordered at noon and got notification at 5pm that they had been despatched.

[azzuri82]

36 minutes ago, Wight Flight said:

Mrs F had to order a load more of our boxes for work today. They are a custom size and usually take a few days to produce.

She ordered at noon and got notification at 5pm that they had been despatched.

This is the sort of coalface info that is very telling.

[Sasquatch]

Seeing similar things. Bought some emulsion paint online yesterday afternoon. It was delivered lunch time today.

Ordered some insulated plasterboard the week before. Was expecting it within 4 or 5 days. Arrived the next morning, less than 24 hours after ordering and on an empty lorry. Bit of a pain really as we then had to store it for a few extra days.

On a smaller scale, the local tradespeople we use (plumber, electrician, plasterers) are all very busy. One man bands though and not vat registered so perhaps they are not the best indicator. If their work dries up, then I'll be worried.

[Heart's Ease]

Not sure if right thread but thought this interesting re targets.

[Chewing Grass]

1 minute ago, Heart's Ease said:

Not sure if right thread but thought this interesting re targets.

Nobody is renting office space full stop, in my area the large former new-town town office block, along with half a retail centre is being pulled down to build 900 flats that nobody will have a job to rent.

It's right next to a railway station but anyone commuting would only live there if they liked being depressed.

[Stuey]

2 hours ago, Chewing Grass said:

 

It's right next to a railway station 

That would appeal to some people. 

[belfastchild]

Michael O'Leary giving it what for on the whole NATS issue.

I bet this doesnt get reported in the UK media.

 

[crashmonitor]

On 27/09/2023 at 11:14, Chewing Grass said:

Nobody is renting office space full stop, in my area the large former new-town town office block, along with half a retail centre is being pulled down to build 900 flats that nobody will have a job to rent.

It's right next to a railway station but anyone commuting would only live there if they liked being depressed.

Regional Reit a good example of a small cap stock ( mainly office, but some retail) 64% discount to nav , 71% fall from issue price and a slightly misleading 23% dividend, as it has been cut back to 1.2p a quarter/ 4.8p a year against the 28p price. That might not hold either...and  they have to renegotiate their debt in 2024.

 

https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/r/regional-reit-ltd-npv

[Kendo]

An interesting snippet on Newsnight tonight with Danny Kruger MP, who conceded that “the government is no longer run by the government”. Government departments now need to defer many decisions to quangos, arms-length bodies, NGOs, charities, lobby groups, etc, and ministers are now relatively powerless to enact change, even if they want to.

I know this probably won’t come as a surprise to people here - I can remember talk of a bonfire of the quangos back in circa 2004/5 - but it’s quite a stark assessment of the political machinery from an MP and an indication of how real reform will be near-on impossible, owing to how the tentacles of power have spread out over recent decades.