Credit deflation and the reflation cycle to come (part 6)

[Red Debt Redemption]

On 15/06/2023 at 19:15, Plan-b said:

Fossil fuels the greatest bargain discovery for all of history its the only reason the modern world exists, the surplus energy created has enabled man to pursue science and learning and much more without having to produce anything in return for the energy invested.

When its gone it will take a while but eventually it'll be like a return to the dark ages because of the loss of a myriad materials produced from fossil fuels cannot be made any other way.

The planet cannot support anything like the current world population without Fossil Fuels.

The loss will be catastrophic.

When? This record gets played and played and played and played but no one gives a refund.

[VeryMeanReversion]

1 hour ago, Loki said:

I think us basement dwellers need to consider a rendezvous point online for if this forum goes offline 

A few of us are meeting up in real life now. Small meeting at York tomorrow, Cambridge end of July.

Look how easy it was to cancel people on twitter, YouTube etc. Simple job to remove dosbods from the internet.

[Axeman123]

Lyn Alden does a neat thread tieing up some ideas. Nothing "new" but links some things up in ways I hadn't connected.

It seems to tie into @DurhamBorn's systemic collapse thesis, govt spending needs to shrink or inflation will rocket (US in this case, but same principle as the UK).

One stand out chart IMO is:

Loan creation has already rolled over, while fiscal defecit is climbing again after the post COVID decline. Interest rates have likely done all they can do, and now only cutting govt spending can prevent a resurgence of inflation.

1 hour ago, Loki said:

I think us basement dwellers need to consider a rendezvous point online for if this forum goes offline 

Surely it should be as simple as some of the better known posters keeping their usernames on any new board (assuming it is google indexed). 

[Plan-b]

1 hour ago, honkydonkey said:

housepricecrash.co.uk ?

Yep the original thread is still there

[Plan-b]

1 hour ago, Loki said:

Not intentionally sorry, just there's some controversial topics and internet authoritarianism isn't going to go away.  At least what's discussed here is safe (Until it gets classed as misinformation  )

Its not safe really though because the basement is available to view for anyone whether they are signed into dosbods or not.

Its easy to forget that fact sometimes when most of this site is only open to signed in members.

Edited June 17, 2023 by Plan-b

[Long time lurking]

 

[Plan-b]

25 minutes ago, VeryMeanReversion said:

A few of us are meeting up in real life now. Small meeting at York tomorrow, Cambridge end of July.

Look how easy it was to cancel people on twitter, YouTube etc. Simple job to remove dosbods from the internet.

Agree, Controversial chat should go to that special place. (dont say it's name!)

Edited June 17, 2023 by Plan-b

[Yadda yadda yadda]

42 minutes ago, Axeman123 said:

Lyn Alden does a neat thread tieing up some ideas. Nothing "new" but links some things up in ways I hadn't connected.

It seems to tie into @DurhamBorn's systemic collapse thesis, govt spending needs to shrink or inflation will rocket (US in this case, but same principle as the UK).

One stand out chart IMO is:

Loan creation has already rolled over, while fiscal defecit is climbing again after the post COVID decline. Interest rates have likely done all they can do, and now only cutting govt spending can prevent a resurgence of inflation.

Surely it should be as simple as some of the better known posters keeping their usernames on any new board (assuming it is google indexed). 

I found this site by searching for durhamborn.

Edited June 17, 2023 by Yadda yadda yadda

[Joncrete Cungle]

59 minutes ago, Plan-b said:

Agree, Controversial chat should go to that special place. (dont say it's name!)

Mumsnet?

[Noallegiance]

5 hours ago, SpectrumFX said:

To be honest I think a lot of them didn't.

It's been the "moron get rich" trade for my generation.

Thing is, I can't tell the difference between ignorance and innocence.

[Plan-b]

33 minutes ago, Joncrete Cungle said:

Mumsnet?

There you go you went and said it!

[Calcutta]

Imo whole thread, even the bits on TOSs need archiving, printed out and published. 

I've thought about doing it just so I had a copy to prove to my descendants that we were right all along and they should just do as they're told. Bit like a bible I suppose.

But I'm shit with computers, and time, and printers. So that put the kybosh on that, they'll just have to believe me if they don't want the inheritance getting spanked on whores and coke.

I found this by searching for the thread title. It's vague enough that it'd be difficult to censor completely, if we get taken down I say we all just spread out across the internet, setting up threads and groups under the title until we find each other and can regroup.

I was on a train in Australia like 20 years ago and passed a bridge with 'whatreallyhappens.com' spray painted on a bridge. First thing I did when I found a computer was search for it. Was a bit nuts but it worked.

One plan might be placing stickers with a new website name on in seemingly random locations. Outside the BOE on a lampost, on a bench by a river in Durham, on the entrance to every Aldi we can find.

[Yadda yadda yadda]

22 minutes ago, Calcutta said:

Imo whole thread, even the bits on TOSs need archiving, printed out and published. 

I've thought about doing it just so I had a copy to prove to my descendants that we were right all along and they should just do as they're told. Bit like a bible I suppose.

But I'm shit with computers, and time, and printers. So that put the kybosh on that, they'll just have to believe me if they don't want the inheritance getting spanked on whores and coke.

I found this by searching for the thread title. It's vague enough that it'd be difficult to censor completely, if we get taken down I say we all just spread out across the internet, setting up threads and groups under the title until we find each other and can regroup.

I was on a train in Australia like 20 years ago and passed a bridge with 'whatreallyhappens.com' spray painted on a bridge. First thing I did when I found a computer was search for it. Was a bit nuts but it worked.

One plan might be placing stickers with a new website name on in seemingly random locations. Outside the BOE on a lampost, on a bench by a river in Durham, on the entrance to every Aldi we can find.

In yellow like a reduced sticker so that it grabs our attention.

[Yellow_Reduced_Sticker]

"Brexit is to blame for inflation, claims Mark Carney"

Isn't it about time these useless lying bankster C***s were rounded up and sent here:

 

Edited June 17, 2023 by Yellow_Reduced_Sticker
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[King Penda]

People spend a fucking fortune to entertain kids by the time your factor in food petrol parking admission .mine have been here over two hours and snail hunting bubbles and 15kg of modelling clay is keeping them very entertained (and bubbles). The hose (fuck you water ban ) is great for making snails active. The only draw back is they will be fucking filthy (mind kids should get grubby)

[Loki]

3 hours ago, Red Debt Redemption said:

When? This record gets played and played and played and played but no one gives a refund.

You know the refund policy

[King Penda]

1 hour ago, Yadda yadda yadda said:

In yellow like a reduced sticker so that it grabs our attention.

Waste food grabs my attention the chef at the carehome is now leaving the nightshift meals out .it was fish and chips last night 2 fish for me has one of my colleagues does not like fish .he even left me some cottage pie to take home.no doubt this will stop if management find out .

[Plan-b]

2 hours ago, King Penda said:

2 fish for me

YFB 

[Red Debt Redemption]

8 hours ago, Loki said:

I think us basement dwellers need to consider a rendezvous point online for if this forum goes offline 

[Loki]

4 minutes ago, Red Debt Redemption said:

Oh yeah.  Of course!

[stoobs]

10 hours ago, Ash4781b said:

Replying to my own post that almost looks like digital signal from 0 ground to 5volts in that scale.

Probably best not to state the rise time in ms in this case though.

[stoobs]

https://twitter.com/stats_feed/status/1670084894112854018?s=61&t=Kfz_uEr4xptbl2MzTjL9EA

Quote

BRICS membership (GDP):

🇧🇷 Brazil: $2.08 trillion 
🇷🇺 Russia: $2.06 trillion
🇮🇳 India: $3.74 trillion 
🇨🇳 China: $19.37 trillion 
🇿🇦 South Africa: $399 billion

Applied for membership:

🇩🇿 Algeria: $206 billion
🇦🇷 Argentina: $641 billion 
🇧🇭 Bahrain: $44 billion
🇪🇬 Egypt: $387 billion
🇮🇩 Indonesia: $1.39 trillion 
🇮🇷 Iran: $367 billion
🇸🇦 Saudi Arabia: $1.06 trillion
🇦🇪 UAE: $499 billion

Total: $32.24 trillion

 

[Red Debt Redemption]

23 minutes ago, Loki said:

Oh yeah.  Of course!

[Plan-b]

13 minutes ago, stoobs said:

https://twitter.com/stats_feed/status/1670084894112854018?s=61&t=Kfz_uEr4xptbl2MzTjL9EA

Surprised to see Indonesian GDP a far bit ahead of the likes of Saudi Arabia

[AlfredTheLittle]

4 minutes ago, Plan-b said:

Surprised to see Indonesian GDP a far bit ahead of the likes of Saudi Arabia

It's a huge country, I think third biggest after China and India.