Death Of London

[Bill Car]

4 hours ago, Errol said:

People are WFH because it's much nicer and saves loads of time and money. Nothing to do with Covid for most people.

I was on the phone trying to sort out some UK government stuff last week. They are working far more slowly than they should be because of the excuse Covid is giving them. Paper work much longer to process because of working from home and covid. Their own words. I rolled my eyes. The poor souls plagued by covid. 

[Soft lad]

Mum's net on it. 

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4626305-whats-happening-in-london-brawl-involving-100-people?utm_source=sendinblue&utm_campaign=Raspberry Pi Mumsnet Daily 050922 Monday&utm_medium=email

[The Masked Tulip]

1 hour ago, Soft lad said:

Mum's net on it. 

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4626305-whats-happening-in-london-brawl-involving-100-people?utm_source=sendinblue&utm_campaign=Raspberry Pi Mumsnet Daily 050922 Monday&utm_medium=email

 

Are they going to invite them to stay in their homes and teach them how to make avocado dip?

[spygirl]

Office workers embrace hybrid working as post-pandemic norm

People across the world’s largest economies have not gone back to pre-Covid commuting patterns, data shows

https://www.ft.com/content/91899837-0fc7-4fe8-9581-60517d85399b

By mid-October trips to workplaces in the world’s seven largest economies were still well below their levels before the coronavirus took hold in early 2020, according to a Financial Times analysis of phone-tracking movements published by Google.

In Japan, footfall was 7 per cent below pre-pandemic levels while in the UK it was down 24 per cent. Across major advanced economies office trips are more popular on the middle days of the week, while Monday and Friday tend to show large drops in attendance.

..

 

[Jazztraveller]

34 minutes ago, spygirl said:

early 2020, according to a Financial Times analysis of phone-tracking movements published by Google.

 

It was so nice of them to ask..  

[Errol]

No idea why they would expect people to want to commute. Why are they surprised?

Work is something you do, not a place.

Edited October 23, 2022 by Errol

[spygirl]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11435107/Benefits-claims-DOUBLE-pre-Covid-levels-parts-Britain.html

Commuting has died a death. Uts not coming back. Ever.

Migrants have piled into London to claim benefits.

 

[Errol]

London offices remain empty on Monday and Friday. Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday busier. But no return to how it used to be.

 

[Syd Germs]

2 hours ago, spygirl said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11435107/Benefits-claims-DOUBLE-pre-Covid-levels-parts-Britain.html

Commuting has died a death. Uts not coming back. Ever.

Migrants have piled into London to claim benefits.

 

I see Liverpool hasn't changed.

Still at 100%.

[Austin Allegro]

On 23/10/2022 at 07:53, Jazztraveller said:

It was so nice of them to ask..  

'If you've got nothing to hide....'

Mrs A and I are on the same page with most things conspiratorial, but she thinks it is an over-reaction by me to dislike Google, Alexa etc. 'Why on earth would they be interested in what you're doing?' she says.

I have to remind her it's not about me personally, it's about the normalisation of surveillance, which when it is sufficiently advanced, will be used to restrict freedoms. We have already seen this with the attempt at getting digital IDs on smart phones during the Covid response. It was only possible because the smartphone had already been normalised.

[One percent]

15 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

'If you've got nothing to hide....'

Mrs A and I are on the same page with most things conspiratorial, but she thinks it is an over-reaction by me to dislike Google, Alexa etc. 'Why on earth would they be interested in what you're doing?' she says.

I have to remind her it's not about me personally, it's about the normalisation of surveillance, which when it is sufficiently advanced, will be used to restrict freedoms. We have already seen this with the attempt at getting digital IDs on smart phones during the Covid response. It was only possible because the smartphone had already been normalised.

I never, ever would have said this but with the sheer number of illegals here, I would welcome an ID card.  Maybe that’s what the establishment wants. Dunno. 

[wherebee]

2 hours ago, One percent said:

I never, ever would have said this but with the sheer number of illegals here, I would welcome an ID card.  Maybe that’s what the establishment wants. Dunno. 

An ID card does nothing about illegals unless you have a system to deport.

And the UK does not.

 

So the ID card will only be useful to fuck YOUR life up.

[One percent]

1 minute ago, wherebee said:

An ID card does nothing about illegals unless you have a system to deport.

And the UK does not.

 

So the ID card will only be useful to fuck YOUR life up.

As I suspected.   

[the gardener]

4 hours ago, One percent said:

I never, ever would have said this but with the sheer number of illegals here, I would welcome an ID card.  Maybe that’s what the establishment wants. Dunno. 

Yes because France and Germany for example don't have any illegal migrants. 🤦

[Bilbo]

Office space taken out of use mainly London financial District.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-11452335/UK-office-space-plummets-hybrid-working-refurbishment-boom.html

I was thinking about this, if offices/shops close then the council's business tax disappears. Will Council's come after the housing sector? How about charging home workers and businesses registered at private addresses, a business rate tax. 

[Bornagain]

13 hours ago, wherebee said:

An ID card does nothing about illegals unless you have a system to deport.

And the UK does not.

 

So the ID card will only be useful to fuck YOUR life up.

Indeed, the law only applied to the law-abiding.

The government can make anything against the law but the criminals will ignore the law unless there is a very real and obvious chance of being caught and heavily punished - there is almost never a chance of that so they keep doing as they please.

 

[spygirl]

On 02/05/2020 at 08:32, spygirl said:

https://www.homesandproperty.co.uk/property-news/renting/london-renters-expected-to-increase-by-122-per-cent-in-next-decade-a135796.html

Private renters now account for 30 per cent of all households in London, which equates roughly to 2.7 million tenants, according to a new study by CBRE.

These are the  above board, official rentals i.e. not beds in sheds. The actual number of private rents is probably 20-30% higher.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London

At the 2011 census, London had a population of 8,173,941. Of this number 44.9% were White British. 37% of the population were born outside the UK, including 24.5% born outside of Europe.[2]

Thats the 2011 census. The foreign  population is much larger today.

 

n London, 40.6% of the population was born overseas, up from 36.7% in 2011.

Londons far far higher spend on public services and transport needs to end.

[One percent]

5 minutes ago, spygirl said:

n London, 40.6% of the population was born overseas, up from 36.7% in 2011.

Londons far far higher spend on public services and transport needs to end.

Weirdly though, my morning commute into central londonistan, it was probably around 95 percent white.  I wonder what they are all doing all day.  

[spygirl]

15 minutes ago, One percent said:

Weirdly though, my morning commute into central londonistan, it was probably around 95 percent white.  I wonder what they are all doing all day.  

Yeah. Gets cold and poof all the subcontinentals n Africans supposedly doing the jobs are no show.

[One percent]

1 minute ago, spygirl said:

Yeah. Gets cold and poof all the subcontinentals n Africans supposedly doing the jobs are no show.

I’m not sure they would even be employed in responsible jobs in central london in the first place. 

[wherebee]

4 hours ago, One percent said:

Weirdly though, my morning commute into central londonistan, it was probably around 95 percent white.  I wonder what they are all doing all day.  

I saw this in London whenever I was there for business.  Before 0700, ethnics (cleaners) and eastern european laborers).  0700-0900, whites going to work, alongside some Indians/Asians.  After 0900, the multicult wake up.

[desertorchid]

On 22/11/2022 at 05:11, wherebee said:

An ID card does nothing about illegals unless you have a system to deport.

And the UK does not.

 

So the ID card will only be useful to fuck YOUR life up.

Living in a place with an ID card i actually like it. The fact its needed for certain interactions with the state gives assurance that illegals will find life very inconvenient. They still exist, but huge detterant. In what way will it be used to fuck your life up?

[wherebee]

1 hour ago, desertorchid said:

Living in a place with an ID card i actually like it. The fact its needed for certain interactions with the state gives assurance that illegals will find life very inconvenient. They still exist, but huge detterant. In what way will it be used to fuck your life up?

Did you sleep through 2020-2022?  Here in Australia the government rolled out an app which was linked to your gvt ID - medical, taxation, etc - without which you could not go into shops, sit down for a coffee, go into doctors, and a thousand more things which in non-fascist society should be a given.  They used the data to track who was where at what time.  The police have already used it unlawfully in other investigations in two states that we know of.

Because there was no national ID card, they couldn't police everything and I found a way round the edges in many cases.  With a national ID card, it would have been nigh impossible.

It's been dropped now, but it shows that with a flick of a pen the government will crush you with whatever tools they can.  Give them an inch and they will take a mile.

[desertorchid]

16 minutes ago, wherebee said:

Did you sleep through 2020-2022?  Here in Australia the government rolled out an app which was linked to your gvt ID - medical, taxation, etc - without which you could not go into shops, sit down for a coffee, go into doctors, and a thousand more things which in non-fascist society should be a given.  They used the data to track who was where at what time.  The police have already used it unlawfully in other investigations in two states that we know of.

Because there was no national ID card, they couldn't police everything and I found a way round the edges in many cases.  With a national ID card, it would have been nigh impossible.

It's been dropped now, but it shows that with a flick of a pen the government will crush you with whatever tools they can.  Give them an inch and they will take a mile.

For me (pre covid) it was always a sensible way to manage access to state resources. I also don’t think its a problem if it helps solve crime. BUT, and its a big but, i do agree many states cannot be trusted to use the data honestly. The freedoms mantra tends to make it a bit of a curates egg politically

[wherebee]

36 minutes ago, desertorchid said:

For me (pre covid) it was always a sensible way to manage access to state resources. I also don’t think its a problem if it helps solve crime. BUT, and its a big but, i do agree many states cannot be trusted to use the data honestly. The freedoms mantra tends to make it a bit of a curates egg politically

We know that the vast majority of crime is now preventable in western nations.  It doesn't happen.  Why?  Because the political will is not there, and too many politicans benefit from the crime in one way or another.

I used to know a copper in the UK who worked in the south east.  His station worked out which burglars were on the patch, targetted them, took them out.  Crime dropped to virtually zero.  His boss was told off, when the burglars came out of jail they were told not to do target them again.

You can't tell me the police don't know who all the drug gangs are in their area. It is allowed to go on.